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Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:49

Hi all

unfortunately my path to a PPL has been cut short. Due to a previous health issue I have failed to pass my Class 2 medical. I am gutted. Flying was just one of those things that I really wanted to pursue but a heart attack a few years ago has taken this away from me.

On the upside, now I think I have the option of going for a RA-Aus Pilot Certificate... Am I correct? I want to eventually able to fly myself and a mate for fun. Will this type of licence allow me to do this?

Alex

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written by brettkp, May 11, 2012

Hi Alex,

Sorry to hear about the issues getting your medical. If you hold a drivers license then you can fly in RA. The overall training is similar to PPL, however it's broken up in to various phases or endorsements. There's the basic training, then you'll need to add a passenger endorsement and a cross country endorsement if you want to fly away from the airfield. RA allows you to fly with one passenger if you have the passenger endorsement. It's definitely worth pursuing!

Good luck!
Brett

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written by Raptor, May 11, 2012

G'day mate:
Sorry to hear about your issues,but don't give up the ship yet.You may have heard recently,that CASA is introducing a Recreational Pilots Licence,as part of the new Part 60 regulations.It should be coming on line this year,or early next year.Basically it will be following the RAA medical requirement,in that all you will require is a doctors "ok",not a DAME,as is the case now for your Private Licence.This means that you can do the following:

Fly a VH registered aircraft,up to 1500KG

Only fly with one passenger,unless a passenger is also a licenced pilot

Fly in Controlled Airspace

I suggest you investigate this option,ASAP.

Hope this has been of some help.

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written by alexp1963, May 14, 2012

Thanks fellas

I investigated the RA-Aus Pilot Certificate path and it looks good to me. I'm happy to just fly with one passenger and as my flight instructor said.."dont worry about the restrictions on the controlled airspace...most pilots try to avoid the hassle of them anyway".

So I will be pursuing this path...

Question though...to Raptor....is the licence that you mention different to the RA-Aus Pilot Certificate?

Cheers

Alex
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written by Raptor, May 15, 2012

Alex:
Put simply "yes",you can upgrade to a Recreational Licence,from an RAA Certificate (20 hours training etc..,I think it is),and downgrade from a Private Pilots licence,(with little extra training etc...)to a Recreational Licence,for those pilots that have medical issues precluding them from maintaining their Class 2 medical status.Basically RAA certificate holders will not be allowed to fly VH registered aircraft,or fly in Controlled Airspace,but as I understand Recreational Licenced pilots,will be able to fly RAA registered aircraft in Controlled Airspace,if they also have a RAA certificate,and the aircraft is fitted with the appropriate avionics,(certified radio,transponder etc...).I think that what will occur down the track,is that former Private Pilot holders,who lose their Class 2 medical,will opt to downgrade to a Recreational Licence,instead of going to a RAA certificate,with it's limitations.A Recreational Pilot Licence holder,who also owns a Beech Bonanza (a high performance 6 seater.and well above the 1500kg limit),can still operate it carrying more than 2 passengers,if one of the passengers is also a Private Pilot Licence holder,or above. I reckon that most Private Licence holders,who are also aircraft owners normally do fly with passengers,who also are licenced.So what will change in their day to day operations.Afterall I know of many older Private Pilots,who already regularly fly with what CASA call a Safety Pilot,that is their medical certificate is endosed for flight only with such a pilot aboard. I think that this licence will ultimately stem the flow of pilots who lose their medical,to the RAA organisation

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